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Evidently the aunt was off the wall, so she didn't really have a place to stay so there started our saga. Chris Halsne: 22:47 Only three by three blocks long, Crestone at first glance is just another sleepy, laid back, hippy town. It seemed like it was fast forward to instant relationship kind of a thing and we were moved in together. This group had given away free land to all sorts of religious sects to set up houses and housing, churches, temples, just outside of town. She laughs a lot, she laughs at everything even if it's kind of a fucked up thing to laugh about. Alex: 32:18 Your safety? Our theme song is Ophelia performed by Ezza Rose. Original score by Makeup and Vanity Set. Happy birthday to you. Elijah Gauna: 27:50 They're just like, if you can imagine, just like a really super tightknit community where everyone knows each other for generations and they don't like outsiders much even though there's a lot of outsiders coming in through the town, they kind of resent them. I think we definite ...It's a tiny, tiny place, you can barely call it a town it's so small. In Season 1, Payne tackles his first cold case story, the unsolved disappearance of Georgia high school teacher and former pageant queen, Tara Grinstead. Our cover art is by Trevor Isler. Join the discussion, share your thoughts, ask questions and hear other’s theories. But it was clear if anyone knew what happened to her, they weren't here. I asked her husband Alex about my safety in Crestone, since he'd been there several times himself. I didn't know about it but ... it's a little bit of a glimpse into her life. Season 2 . Roy: 00:30 Yeah. It was then that the Ervin’s took Kristal into their home, their son being a close friend of hers. ‎Up and Vanished is an investigative true crime podcast hosted by Atlanta filmmaker Payne Lindsey. Chris Halsne: 32:48 It is old Navajo country, and they have left it pristine and rough and unowned for a reason. I'm about to meet with the former boyfriend of Kristal Reisinger, who went missing in July of 2016. It's just out there in the mountains. I'm so incomplete. Debbie: 21:07 She managed to keep all of the things that were important to her. Chris Halsne: 30:02 Well what we found is that it's really a peaceful, meditative place and thousands of New Age religious seekers from all over the world have come there but, you know, there's a real dark side there. And they start this huge bonfire, and they sing and they dance and they do drugs and they drink. You can hear more at colterwall. And when people keep saying, "You know, you shouldn't live in the past," and everything else, but you know. Wild hair and big flamboyant personality. Debbie: 21:30 I'm assuming that was her grandmother, because that's who raised her. Rodney: 15:56 It warms my heart that you're even considering this. And when you sit down and just have a quiet moment with her, she knows exactly why you're asking the questions, and it's because she knows her mother's gone. Elijah Gauna: 05:32 Yeah, okay, enough babe, no more, honey girl. A tradition more commonly known as a "drum circle." She has not been seen since. Unknown 1: 00:49 How fucking amazing is this steel tongue drum? Up and Vanished will continue to provide updates on this no-longer-cold case as the criminal trial proceeds in 2018. It's called a drum circle. As far as when she bought the stuff, I think it was on the 12th or the 11th of July, just a couple days before she went missing. With a population of about 150 in the town proper, Crestone is known as the “New Age Religious” capital of the world, drawing thousands of “truth seekers” to the area. Elijah Gauna: 25:06 It's just a party out in the woods that just goes on all night. Coming August 20th. Part 1 of 2: After 2 years investigating and bringing weekly updates on the disappearance of Tara Grinstead, Up and Vanished Season 1 is coming to a close. After 2 years with no arrests, Saguache County Sheriff’s Office is no longer treating Kristal’s disappearance as a missing persons case, but rather suspected foul play. Elijah Gauna: 27:46 Well, local people don't like to give out too much information if you're an outsider. If you want to take this-. Elijah Gauna: 09:46 So she came down and took care of me immediately from Crestone till I could take care of myself. He saw this poor girl and no way to survive without just living on the street. It starts in Los Angeles. Crestone’s development as a spiritual center was initiated by Maurice Strong, a multimillionaire businessman, and his wife, Hanne Strong. It had always been in Kristal's nature to want to know more about the world around her, to find her purpose. Rodney: 16:42 She's from Arizona and she was a ward of the court. What I think most people agree on is that this is the last place she was seen. Eli: 00:05 She went to Crestone, Colorado, which is known to be a big spiritual gathering place. Listen. When she was 15 and a half, she met our son. There's a lot of little roads, electricity running out to these places, but they're very private. She was always on a spiritual journey, she was always on a quest, like always trying to go deeper and deeper into things. And Eli supported this. It was just, yeah, awesome, wonderful experience. But she's not. Rodney: 18:57 A day or so before she disappeared, she had bought all her normal health foods. You know, if that's an indication of a person that's completely off the rails and going south, ah, I don't buy it. I want to trust them, but boy, I tell you, things are starting to chip away here. Visit us on social media via @upandvanished. It means something different to a lot of different people. Chris Halsne: 23:46 The tiny town of Crestone is full of big rumors about what happened to Kristal, so the Fox 31 problem solvers came here to figure out fact from fiction. The investigation continues as Payne Lindsey uncovers new details and circles back to old evidence. From Tenderfoot TV in Atlanta, this is Up and Vanished, Season Two. Trending Now. Follow along with host Payne … I think she just found her place. You know? Chris Halsne: 26:26 It's not much. The bed was right here. If it wasn't for our daughter, she has just been a healer. Elijah Gauna: 07:10 She went to Crestone, Colorado, which is known to be a big spiritual gathering place. Payne Lindsey: 18:24 When she was first reported missing, Rodney drove down to the town of Crestone and met with their police department. She couldn't tell me exactly what it was gonna be, but it was gonna happen soon, within a few days. Amy: 32:02 But you're not like ... meditating? He's an investigative reporter from Fox News in Denver. Payne Lindsey: 18:06 Since Kristal went missing, Rodney's been doing some investigating of his own. Chris Halsne: 30:20 Maybe it was a religious thing for her, but more ... She was more "Mother Earth," she was more trying to connect to this planet. Couldn't find her, we questioned I think every person in that area, like within that town. Like if you lost a limb suddenly, like I feel like I have like this phantom pain like she's still here but I can feel her. Made sure she got to school, gave her money for clothes and fed her. Unknown 2: She took me there one day, and there were four strands of this long, dark hair. We've been friends for years. Meredith S.: 36:55 Up and vanished is an investigative podcast, told weekly, produced for Tenderfoot TV by Payne Lindsey, Mike Rooney, and me, Meredith Stedmann, with new episodes every Monday. 123 4. She's healing me. They moved in together, Kristal gave birth to their Akasha, but after a few years Kristal expressed to Eli that she was ready for a big change in her life. Fields marked with an * are required. Next 30 results. They were working on my face, I had been stabbed in the face, beaten, brutally beaten. x. That's why she wasn't gonna come back to Denver. Payne Lindsey: 27:40 Kristal's ex boyfriend Eli had gone down to Crestone with Rodney to search for her. No. Rodney: 18:30 They were telling me, at that point, she was a wild partier and having these noisy parties in her apartment. She disappeared and that was the last I'd seen of her. July 13th of 2016. And then, two days after she got back to Crestone, she disappeared. Elijah Gauna: 09:59 No. The police were trying to steer it one way, where it was like, definitely was looking like she killed herself but I knew there was no way. Chris Halsne: 29:13 Whenever I see a missing poster, I think, "Maybe there's still a chance." Elijah Gauna: 10:32 She said it wasn't like her not to come home, that she just disappeared, nobody knew where she was. Coming August 20th. Chris Halsne: 28:05 They're distrustful. Dickinson Season 2 Premiere Recap: I Only Have Eyes for Sue (Plus, Grade It!) Payne Lindsey: 29:59 You paint such an interesting picture of this town, Crestone. Payne Lindsey: 18:50 Kristal lived in a small apartment by herself, in the center of town. Did you have something to eat? It's made out of steel. Elijah Gauna: 09:16 I knew not to take it lightly, coming from her. I hope we can find Kristal before I die. At least someday, maybe she could come back to the realization her daughter's here and there's people that love her and have been looking for her. Chris Halsne: 28:57 Running around, you know, excited about life. A second season of Up and Vanished, covering a completely different true crime story, will debut August 20, 2018. Payne interviews the man’s brother as well as a clinical psychologist regarding his head injury and subsequent personality change. Because he had always taken care of her. Payne Lindsey: 32:09 Amy was with her husband, Alex, also a good friend of Kristal's. But the nearby hills may also be hiding some very dark secrets. She would know things or have premonitions of things and they would always happen. Ocilla is a small town located in Irwin County, South Georgia. “Up and Vanished” Season 2 focuses on Reisinger, a 29-year-old mom who disappeared two years ago after wandering from a drum circle in an isolated Colorado town. I call the sheriff, I call the deputy, and very rarely does he get back to me. Rodney: 31:01 There's just something really, really strange about this whole deal. Elijah Gauna: 08:31 Well, I gotta include this, so Kristal was pretty psychic. Payne Lindsey: 00:30 Okay. Using land acquired from corporations in Strong’s control, they established the Manitou Foundation and Manitou Institute, and donated grants of land to a number of spiritual centers. They really monitor outsiders. She was just real sensitive to energies and stuff, so she felt that was a great place to align her energies with the earth's energies. Our intern is Hallie Bedol. Payne Lindsey: 26:20 Chris Halsne had spent several days in Crestone, developing his news story on Kristal. But this story doesn't start at the drum circle. It's not much of a town. Meredith S.: 13:13 Good to see you. Unknown 2: 00:56 Fucking amazing. Meredith S.: 35:14 If you're enjoying Up and Vanished, tell a friend, family member, or coworker about it. Like something just ... so big and profound in my life, is gone. Learn more about your ad choices. Rodney: 13:29 You can generally tell a lot of people by their kids. Trending Now. Rodney: 14:19 You really start dissecting just about every two minutes of the past 15 years. Considered sacred ground by the Navajo, this place has lately been attracting truth seekers of a worldwide, New Age religious movement. Unforgettable, really. New figures emerge, and the people of Ocilla are finally talking. The podcast also prompted a television special on Oxygen that premiered November 18, 2018. At first, things were great. And they're income is very low. One of the many consequences of Kristal’s disappearance is that her 5-year-old daughter, Akasha (“Kasha”), is now financially supported by only one parent. Stream Tracks and Playlists from Up and Vanished on your desktop or mobile device. Elijah Gauna: 09:21 Two days later, I was on my way home from work and I have no memory of the events but I just remember waking up in the hospital. I can't explain it any better than that, I just ... You know, when we're talking and when I'm talking about the mascara on the floor and all that stuff, you start thinking back in the past and you start thinking about the really stupid crap that you get upset about, that in hindsight is really what it is, just crap. Elijah Gauna: 05:01 My name is Elijah Gauna, I'm a ex-boyfriend of Kristal, father of our daughter. They have a record of her using her food stamp card. Rodney: 21:10 And there were things in here that we didn't know about. We lost a son, years back, to suicide. She fit in. Investigative reporter Chris Halsne traced Reisinger's final days to discover it is unlikely she simply walked away. The drug culture is strong and a very thin police force. Chris Halsne: 27:08 It's quiet, no one's gonna bother you in Crestone. Payne Lindsey: 03:50 Just two years ago, in July 2016, 29 year old Kristal Anne Reisinger went to a full moon drum circle. Yeah, so you'll definitely be walking in as a total weirdo, like what-. Rodney: 22:08 I don't know if this is the tipping point, but there comes a point where it's like, "Man," as you guys start making your presence known, and Fox News. Up and Vanished is an investigative true crime podcast hosted by Atlanta filmmaker Payne Lindsey. But she kept going forward. I feel like I failed her. We continue to investigate the behavior of the young man who died by suicide in 2010. Payne Lindsey: 22:02 After two years of searching for Kristal, and still no answers, Rodney wants as many people as possible to hear her story. The 11 … But this story doesn't start at the drum circle. Payne Lindsey: 19:55 This is Chris Halsne. Then I get a call while I'm in my meeting from her phone. Chris Halsne: 24:55 We couldn't find anything substantial, that she was seen after the drum circle. Chris Halsne: 32:32 There's still hope. Ocilla has a population of about 3,600 people and only two traffic lights. Payne Lindsey: 30:43 I spent quite a bit of time in Denver, digging into Kristal's past and meeting some of her family. From ancient ritual gatherings, to casual parties in the desert, drum circles have become somewhat of a cultural phenomenon. I mean there's no way you wouldn't know Kristal, if you were from Crestone. The Disappearance of Kristal Reisinger. Payne Lindsey: 07:58 Even though Kristal had moved nearly four hours away from Denver, she kept in touch with Eli and her daughter Akasha daily. And when we met, it was kind of like fireworks immediately. Payne Lindsey: 06:37 Eli had met Kristal in Denver, and they fell in love almost instantly. Payne Lindsey: 01:48 I'm holding my recorder next to my hip. There was a nightstand over here. For celebration, fellowship, renewal, and healing. Payne Lindsey: 20:54 It was full of mostly pictures, dating back to when she was a child. And even though they can barely see each other, they're all playing strangely in sync. 3069 Followers. All Times EST. Kristal was just a wonderful, lost soul, so to speak. He'd been to some. But from there, things took an even darker turn. It was just like having another child. News Clip 2: 22:28 Kristal Anne Reisinger dropped off the face of the Earth last July. Two years later, Eli still has no answers, and it's changed him as a person. And it did not in any way, shape, or form, reflect that. And then over the years, you know, we've helped her get into college and moved her. You get outside of town, into the county, there's some really nice homes and high-income, there's definitely two sets of people there. Rodney: 20:15 This is the file of different things that we got out of her apartment. NEW CASE. 1 Murkowski; ALL RIGHTS RESERVED, The Journey Begins at the End of the Road. Make a wish! More About the Podcast. NEW SEASON. Due to a difficult home life, Kristal became a ward of the state and relocated to Denver to live with her aunt. And don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review on Apple Podcasts. Continue on I-70 West. Kristal had this keen sense of the world's energy around her, and was always seeking a higher level of understanding. And Rodney introduced us to his wife Debbie. Navigation: 34:05 Starting route to Crestone. Titled Up and Vanished, the story details the findings of Atlanta filmmaker, Payne Lindsey as he makes a documentary on Tara Grinstead. She smiled a lot, pale as a ghost, just like me. Payne Lindsey: 05:28 Kristal and Eli had a daughter together, and she lives with Eli here in Los Angeles. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Native Americans would be offended that it became a party, but that's what it's just morphed into in Crestone. Tracy Sargent, dog handler, brings along her cadaver dog, Chance, to assist…. Rodney: 16:29 She lived with us for a number of years. For that little girl to have an answer. In the first ever press conference for Tara Grinstead, the GBI makes a very big announcement. It's the tale of two worlds there. DISCUSS . 4 days ago. Payne Lindsey: 09:39 He'd been attacked by a stranger, and nearly beaten to death. And he's the only TV reporter to ever cover Kristal's story. Payne Lindsey: 03:24 For generations and throughout many cultures, people have gathered in celebration each month during a full moon. All kinds of things. Chris Halsne: 26:41 The population of the place really is just outside of town. Rodney: 17:40 She's an absolutely wonderful person, she had an incredible ability to keep going. My type of girl. She has not been seen since. The Crestone area is considered sacred ground by the Navajo Nation, and is currently home to several world religions, including: a Hindu temple, a Zen center, a co-ed Carmelite monastery, several Tibetan Buddhist centers, and miscellaneous New Age happenings. She often wore head veils and flowing dresses. You know, we've been done there from time to time. What I should have said or what I should've done, or you know, I lay awake at nights thinking about what I should've done or should've said. 3 days ago. That's what I've found. Just to leave its beauty. 'UP AND VANISHED' IS A TRUE CRIME INVESTIGATIVE PODCAST. Chris Halsne: 33:24 The minute you drive into town, and buy a soda at the deli, just about everybody knows you're there. Executive producers Payne Lindsey and Donald Albright. Payne Lindsey: 01:59 Do you know anything about the woman who went missing from here? She'll laugh about it anyways. The relationship moved really fast. Chris Halsne: 25:35 You've seen photos of her and video of her, she's hard to miss. There were also tons of documents, bills and receipts. 200 miles Southwest of Denver, located at the base of the spectacular Sangre de Cristo Mountains, sits the tiny town of Crestone. Season 2 aired in August 2018 and focused on the disappearance of Kristal Reisinger in Crestone, Colorado. Elijah Gauna: 05:08 And what's your name, Akasha? On July 13, 2016, Kristal reportedly disappeared from a full moon drum circle. Rob: 00:00 Previously on Up and Vanished. Part 2 of 2: After 2 years investigating and bringing weekly updates on the disappearance of Tara Grinstead, Up and Vanished Season 1 is coming to a close. Don't miss the special 2-hour premiere this Saturday, February 15th at 7/6 central on Oxygen, the true network for crime. Payne Lindsey: 00:08 I'm on the top of a mountain. "It's a tale of two worlds.". It's that round thing down there. It’s approximately 2.6 square miles in size and sits inland, almost equidistant from the coast and the Alabama border. A new case, a new season. She had this whole downstairs to herself, for a couple of years. Payne Lindsey: 05:24 We'll you're pretty big. SEASON 1 EXPLORED THE UNSOLVED DISAPPEARANCE OF GEORGIA BEAUTY QUEEN AND HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER, TARA GRINSTEAD, AN 11-YEAR-OLD COLD CASE THAT IS . Just like Kristal said, this whole time, she's kept me strong. Later this season, on Up and Vanished. Kristal Anne Reisinger, 29, is an Arizona native, constantly described by her friends and family as a highly intuitive and positive person. Payne Lindsey: 12:39 As I wrapped up my interview, Akasha leaned across the table and whispered something to me. Meredith S.: 34:21 Up and Vanished is produced for Tenderfoot TV by Payne Lindsey, Mike Rooney, and me, Meredith Stedman. Thank you for having us over. On July 13, 2016, Kristal reportedly disappeared from a full moon drum circle. It just ... it really hurts. Yay! Roy: 00:35 Came out just for this drum circle? But he didn't learn much at all. Unknown 1: His first question was have you seen or heard from Tara? Elijah Gauna: 08:04 I mean, she did not miss more than a day at the most, without keeping in touch. He travels across Colorado and Los Angeles to meet her family and friends and learn more about her and what drew her to the small town in a rugged, remote area of Colorado where she disappeared. Akasha: 05:37 No, put them in your pocket so I can save them for later. The Disappearanceof Kristal Anne Reisinger. Poverty level low. They sent her up here to live with an aunt. There's 143 people that are officially registered to live in Crestone. It's part of living and everything else, I failed to protect, I failed to be able to help. For up-to … This second season takes on a new cold case disappearance. Elijah Gauna: 11:51 I'm just a hole. This episode features the song Sleeping on the Blacktop performed by Colter Wall. He had a friend that he wanted to introduce me to, it was like a friend of a friend introduction kind of a thing. It's called the tongue drum. Other people are putting her at the drum circle. Whoever made that is fucking amazing. Hundreds of people from the area around Crestone, on the full moon, go out of town to this park. I feel like, like I have a phantom pain. Rodney: 18:10 There is a lot of inconsistencies in the actual last time that she was seen. Next 31 results. Payne Lindsey: 12:50 "My mommy's in the spirit world.". And if you leave people alone, they'll leave you alone. According to her ... Amy: 17:17 She was incredible. Season 2. And mascara all over the floor. This friend of Kristal's had seen that series of reports and she called, teary, and said, "I saw what you could do for this other woman, can you help Kristal?". I got the feeling people didn't like me there, asking questions. Payne Lindsey: 07:02 According to Eli, Kristal was always on some sort of spiritual quest, and she found herself drawn to a tiny town in south central Colorado called Crestone. And one of the things that always struck me was that she just wanted to be a good person. Rodney: 13:17 This is Debbie, and Meredith. Unbelievable little girl. We'd been running a series of reports called Death on a Train. season 1                UAV                season 2, © 2020 TENDERFOOT TV. up and vanished season 2 eli: up and vanished podcast: up and vanished season 2 picture: tara grinstead: Prev. She moved into their furnished  basement, they put her through college, and they became proud grandparents to Kristal’s 5 year-old daughter, Kasha. It's part party, part religious experience. Payne Lindsey takes it back to the beginning, bringing the case full circle, and uncovers a new theory in the process. She’s more of a free spirit, hippy type who had a rough life and ended up in what sounds like the most annoying town in America, Crestone, CO. Annoying in that it’s all tweakers, psychics and drum circlers. Around a fire, they sing, they dance, and they play the drum. She's got that sparkly, inquisitive, that just "love-you-to-death," that is Kristal. Pacing around, trying to find the right time to ask just one question. They just play their drums, pretty much all night and there's a lot of drinking and drug use going on. Chris Halsne: 28:25 It's heartbreaking to see all the life in her eyes, at that young age. The surrounding mountains and sand dunes hold a raw, peaceful beauty. Payne Lindsey: 25:01 I asked Kristal's former boyfriend Eli about drum circles too. I think it takes one brave soul who lives in Crestone, who's on the fringe of something a little seedy, to have the courage and the heart to step forward and let the authorities know what they know. Rodney canvassed the area himself, along with the police. I know who she is." It's just so isolated, it's literally in the mountains. The future of democracy as we know it hinges on the outcome of two Senate races in a state that shocked the nation by turning blue for the first time in nearly three decades. Elijah Gauna: 28:54 Ah, you missed your mama. 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